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Re: Never log deprecation warnings [message #179084 is a reply to message #179083] Tue, 11 September 2012 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 9/11/2012 3:53 PM, Jonathan Stein wrote:
> On 11-09-2012 15:32, Jerry wrote:
>
>> You are not only ignoring the errors, you are trying to hide them. In a
>> year or two, you'll get to the point you have to upgrade PHP, i.e. some
>> new feature that was added or because the old version isn't supported
>> any more. At that point you'll have forgotten all about your
>> deprecation errors and your site(s) will break.
>
> I won't state that this could not happen for us, but I'm pretty sure
> that deprecated functions won't disappear in a minor service update.
> (And we wouldn't do a major version upgrade without a little more testing).
>
> However, there are many other things that could break a "minimalistic"
> maintained site, and that's a risk we have considered.
>
> It's not so graceful, but the few users can keep the sites a little
> longer. That's our trade off.
>
>>> But why take it down NOW?
>>
>> To save your clients the problem of it suddenly crashing later.
>
> The problems if the sites crash tomorrow are not bigger than if we shot
> down the sites today...
>
>>> Not to log the warnings are not the same as ignoring the problem. We
>>> have weighted pros and cons and made a decision.
>>
>> Yes it is. Ever heard of "out of sight, out of mind"? If you don't see
>> the warnings, you WILL forget about them.
>
> If the sites live to the day where we decide to upgrade to PHP 6, I'm
> sure we'll test with all our sites. If the functions disappear earlier,
> the old sites might crash (and then see above).
>
>
> You - finally - had some good arguments, but they are not valid in this
> particular case. That's the danger of skipping the analysis and jumping
> directly to the conclusion.
>
> So next time why not start with the arguments and let the poster draw
> the conclusions?
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan
>

I figured you had enough experience to understand the conclusion. I see
I was wrong.

And, every one of the people/groups I've seen crash and burn have
promised "it won't happen to us". But it did.


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