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Re: Is Symfony 2 on-topic in this newsgroup? [message #179316 is a reply to message #179308] Wed, 03 October 2012 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On 10/3/12 1:15 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
> Am 02.10.2012 18:50, schrieb Daniel Pitts:
>> On 10/2/12 9:08 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>> Am 02.10.2012 17:40, schrieb Daniel Pitts:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> I know some "programming language" newsgroups have different opinions on whether
>>>> frameworks are on topic. I'm learning Symfony2, and re-learning PHP (after 5 years
>>>> hiatus). If it is on-topic here, I may be asking questions from time-to-time. If it
>>>> isn't, then I'll find some other venue for the symfony specific questions ;-)
>>>
>>> The general policy is "PHP only". I have never seen a discussion on symfony subjects
>>> here.
>> Okay, that's good to know. I'm sure I'll have some PHP questions at some point.
>>
>>> I would even expect people here telling you "work up to a decent knowledge in PHP
>>> first".
>> Unfortunately that isn't exactly an option. I've been working at a Java shop for 7
>> years, and suddenly we've been told we're going to become PHP only. And that we're
>> going to be using Symfony. If I can't ramp up fast on both, I may not be able to
>> keep my job :-/
>
> This is a déjà vu (déjà lu) for me. Some time ago I read a similar post here. The
> NG got into speculating if it was a good idea, and why one would do that.
It may have been sparked by me. I recall asking some basic questions
when I first heard we might be switching to PHP. I recall the discussion
got beyond the point where it mattered to me any more, so I stopped
reading this NG for a while.

> But good programmers will not be cheap to hire in any language. Complex systems are
> complex systems.

Yes, and as a matter of fact, it seems that Symfony may be somewhat
specialized anyway, so a "Symfony programmer" is likely more expensive
than a "regular PHP programmer". Luckily for my, Symfony "feels" like
Java in many ways, so I'm very comfortable with the idioms.

We live in interesting times.
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