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Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? [message #180081 is a reply to message #180067] Sat, 05 January 2013 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
crankypuss is currently offline  crankypuss
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On 01/04/2013 06:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 1/4/2013 7:06 AM, bill wrote:
>> On 1/3/2013 8:18 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>> Am 03.01.2013 12:52, schrieb bill:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Use xdebug, and a IDE that does it, for example Komodo IDE.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a remote debugger that does not require and IDE?
>>>> ie: one I can open in a 2nd browser window?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I once found a xdebug_client directly from the makers at xdebug.org,
>>> but it was in
>>> alpha state.
>>>
>>> You can dump execution traces.
>>>
>>> But why worry? A developer has an IDE.
>>>
>>> /Str.
>>>
>>
>> I prefer HTML-Kit Tools as an editor and it is not part of an IDE.
>> bill
>
> Sorry, I agree. A DEVELOPER has an IDE. A hacker uses an editor.
>

Please, Jerry; such unthinking buffoonery is beneath you, you are
neither an idiot nor a fool so why present yourself as a bigoted
software redneck.

Developers do what is necessary, including building their own IDE using
an editor, or the fucking dip-switches if that's what it takes. Lamers
subject to significant brain damage from too many years of doing as they
are told only have an IDE, the one that is most politically correct, or
has been chosen by some idiot who has sucked up to management.

It is absolutely unnecessary to have an IDE in order to have a debugger,
the debugger does its part of the job, the editor does its part, and an
IDE tries to take it all upon itself to hoard the credit... in some
cases an IDE might actually make things more convenient overall, but
I've seen more cases of IDEs making things more of a pain in the ass.

The word "hacker" seems to have come into vogue and now seems to be
leaving the fad building; back in the day, a "hack" described a quack
doctor, or an incompetent professional. People want to think they are
hackers when that is the politically acceptable thing, "developers" when
that is more fashionable. Nobody is content to be a programmer anymore,
everybody is most interested in gathering the acclaim suggested by a
fancy title. Developer, hacker, blah blah blah. Just get the job done.
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