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Re: anyone else writing Linux (or cross-system) applications in PHP? [message #180267 is a reply to message #180253] Sun, 03 February 2013 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jonathan N. Little is currently offline  Jonathan N. Little
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crankypuss wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 02:27 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> crankypuss wrote:
>>> (Apologies for the cross-post.)
>>>
>>> I don't like bash, haven't seen anything that crude since back in the
>>> days when I was writing FORTRAN and BASIC, so I've been writing all of
>>> my local applications in PHP.
>>>
>>> The folks who frequent comp.lang.php seem to be pretty web-centric which
>>> makes sense as far as that goes. The folks who frequent the various
>>> Linux fora seem pretty bash-centric which also makes sense as far as
>>> that goes.
>>
>> Because for the web is where PHP originated. Get data, do something,
>> done. Not really suited for event driven apps.
>
> I have code that says you're mistaken.


I don't think so. Since its original name was "Personal Home Page Tools"
for scripts to facilitate created personal webpages on a server speaks
to its origins. How an application interacts in with the user from a
webserver is very different from that of a desktop application. That
said, PHP is one of the easiest languages to get started on. I use it a
lot but never liked it double-butt-load of core commands, I mean com'on
PHP gods have you not ever hear of a command parameter? How many in
PHP's gaggle of "sort" commands vs Perl one: sort?

>
>> Late comer to acquiring
>> programming features like OOP. But it is evolving and things may change.
>
> OOP is the worst thing that happened to PHP since mySQL.
>
>>>
>>> As an aside, I've been using Linux for long enough now to realize how
>>> shell-centric it is as an operating system; I'm somewhat blown away by
>>> that but it too makes its own kind of sense.
>>
>> I found bash so useful and powerful and confusing a bit at times. Beats
>> the stuffing out of MS batch files and easier than powershell for me.
>
> MS batch files, lol.

You can get some things done, but it takes a lot of kung-foo!

> Not familiar with powershell.

Single word, "ugh".

>
>>>
>>> Is there a forum where the other folks (presuming there are any) who
>>> have been writing applications in PHP hang out? Don't say "yeah dummy,
>>> go to comp.lang.python" please, my homor quotient is maxed out for
>>> today. <g>
>>
>> Because the python, perl, bash, c, and c++ is what is generally used.
>
> So it goes, eh? Everybody does what everybody has always done.

I have been looking at python since there seems to be so much
development in that direction, but <groan> another language to
learn...maybe not so bad since the syntax is so different, unlike the
problems I suffer when I switch back and forth between Perl and PHP.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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