| Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser [message #180423 is a reply to message #180415] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 14:09   |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 2/12/2013 12:23 AM, Cal Dershowitz wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 02:40 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 2/11/2013 4:29 PM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>> Am 11.02.2013 20:13, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>> On 2/11/2013 11:23 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>> > Am 11.02.2013 15:29, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Incorrect. Linux is not the "native platform for PHP
>>>> >> development". It is ONE
>>>> >> platform for PHP development. PHP runs fine on Windows, also. And
>>>> >> there are good
>>>> >> IDE's on Windows, also.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Unix/Linux is the native platform for web development, because the
>>>> > first web server
>>>> > was on *nix, and it is still the primary platform
>>>> > (http://news.netcraft.com/).
>>>> >
>>>> > /Str.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter if the first web server was on *nix, nor that it is
>>>> still the
>>>> primary platform for web development. Linux is *not* the "native
>>>> platform for PHP
>>>> development".
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I would almost bet there is more PHP *development* done on
>>>> Windows, even
>>>> though *deployment* is done on *nix. Windows is, after all, the
>>>> predominant system
>>>> on the desktop (where most development is done).
>>>
>>> yes, for the desktop, but not where most development is done.
>>>
>>> Maybe I confound it with the question which desktop is best for *nix
>>> development, but
>>> it just does not make sense develop for *nix on a MS Win desktop. You
>>> do not even
>>> have a decent shell. MinGW and Cygwin are not THE REAL THING.
>>>
>>> BTW I am not a MS hater, I had a Technet subscription with all MS
>>> operating systems
>>> when I gave courses in MS Networking / Active Directory.
>>> /Str.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Most development isn't done on a desktop? Horse Hockey! People don't
>> develop on servers. They may (and should) have development
>> environments, but like most I've seen, those are done on the same
>> desktop they write the code on. Some may have a separate "server", but
>> it generally isn't really a "server" - it's another desktop which
>> happens to be running Apache or something similar.
>>
>> It makes perfect sense to develop PHP scripts on a Windows desktop.
>> There are some great IDEs available for Windows, and unless you need
>> some rather esoteric *nix functions, the code is 100% portable.
>>
>> I do my do my development here on Windows (because I need Windows for
>> other things anyway) with Apache running on this system. Eclipse IDE
>> runs great and I can edit the files right in the local web directory.
>> When they are working like I want them to, I upload them to a test Linux
>> server for final checks. Then over to the live system.
>>
>> I would suggest many people use a similar process (perhaps without the
>> test Linux system - it's really not necessary but I like to be careful).
>>
>>
>
> I'm super happy that you guys are commenting on this thread, but I won't
> have that flame potential not focused on getting my bologna configured.
>
> For the purpose of this thread, OP is developing on ubuntu and is a
> native american. I'm very invested in the tool-chain of linux now, My
> grandma had to pass herself off as a mexican to marry a chicago cop. Her
> son, my dad, would never use linux, but made extraordinary calculation
> in then-available syntaxes computing a better house, with, for example,
> solar gains, referenced.
>
> I'm gonna try to get php as a two stepper, and if I fail, I'm coming
> right back here.
I think the easiest way for you to install PHP would be to use the
ubuntu package manager. I understand ubuntu isn't much different than
debian (which is what I use), and it will preconfigure a working system
for you. It's also easy to change the configuration.
And no, we aren't flaming. Just having a difference of opinion :).
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