| Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser [message #180426 is a reply to message #180421] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 14:29   |
M. Strobel
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Am 12.02.2013 14:50, schrieb Peter H. Coffin:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:29:42 +0100, M. Strobel wrote:
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>> Am 11.02.2013 20:13, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
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>>> On 2/11/2013 11:23 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
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>>>> Am 11.02.2013 15:29, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>
>>>> > Incorrect. Linux is not the "native platform for PHP development".
>>>> > It is ONE platform for PHP development. PHP runs fine on Windows,
>>>> > also. And there are good IDE's on Windows, also.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unix/Linux is the native platform for web development, because the
>>>> first web server was on *nix, and it is still the primary platform
>>>> (http://news.netcraft.com/).
>>>>
>>>> /Str.
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>>> It doesn't matter if the first web server was on *nix, nor that it is
>>> still the primary platform for web development. Linux is *not* the
>>> "native platform for PHP development".
>>>
>>> In fact, I would almost bet there is more PHP *development* done on
>>> Windows, even though *deployment* is done on *nix. Windows is, after
>>> all, the predominant system on the desktop (where most development is
>>> done).
>>
>> yes, for the desktop, but not where most development is done.
>>
>> Maybe I confound it with the question which desktop is best for *nix
>> development, but it just does not make sense develop for *nix on a MS
>> Win desktop. You do not even have a decent shell. MinGW and Cygwin are
>> not THE REAL THING.
>
> I am not sure how this matters, since 99.9% of development doesn't
> even touch a shell, and wouldn't need the facilities of even those
> (MinGW/Cygwin) anyway. An IDE works with files, it may compile things,
> it probably does some socket stuff connecting to a versioning system
> or source repository, but all the capacities of the programs being
> developed depend on the capacities of the languages that they're built
> in, and all stuff outside that can easily be provided by the IDE itself.
> (EG: Who cares if you've got a posix grep utility around if your IDE
> would be built with a regexp library bound in anyway?)
>
Then it looks like I am doing something completely wrong.
I have to: write helper scripts, distribute them on my servers into the search path,
version them, pump data out one database piping via ssh to remote servers, automate
remote server setup and management, set up remote versioning repos, testing PHP
snippets because of version differences and fine tuning, test HTML5 features and
javascript in browser versions, write DB consistency checks, ... and yes, brute force
grep through everything for refactoring.
It really helps to work within the same OS family.
/Str.
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