| Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses [message #180897 is a reply to message #180894] |
Mon, 25 March 2013 17:24   |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 3/25/2013 10:54 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/03/13 13:34, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <kiphri$tch$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> Scott Johnson <noonehome(at)chalupasworld(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2013 5:42 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> In article <kipfqa$ib5$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > You can't track visitors by IP. A visitor's IP can change at any
>>>> > time, and it is very possible to have multiple visitors from the same
>>>> > IP address (i.e. even at my home we have 5 computers but only 1 IP
>>>> > address). An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request
>>>> > with all of it's images) but nothing more.
>>>>
>>>> 1) In both instances above you mean "e.g." and not "i.e."
>>>
>>> Who Cares?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) In the above, "its" does not need an apostrophe (are you a grocer?)
>>>
>>> Who Cares?
>>
>> Anyone with two brain cells to rub together, ISTM.
>>
>>
>>>> 3) A user's IP address is typically allocated when they reboot their
>>>> ADSL router (e.g. mine has been up for 128 days), and will remain
>>>> unchanged for that duration. Unless, that is, they asked their ISP
>>> for a
>>>> static IP address in which case it won't change at all.
>>>
>>> I do not use DSL so when does mine change?
>>
>> Who says that it does?
>>
>>>> 4) So even with a dynamic IP address, to say that it's valid for one
>>>> page request only is complete nonsense.
>>>
>>> Can you quote where he said "it's valid for one page request only"?
>>
>> Where he said:
>>
>> "An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request with all of
>> it's images) but nothing more."
>>
> in reality its valid for a whole series of page requests.If the browser
> does persistent connections
>
> "In HTTP 1.1, all connections are considered persistent unless declared
> otherwise.[1] The HTTP persistent connections do not use separate
> keepalive messages, they just allow multiple requests to use a single
> connection. However, the default connection timeout of Apache 2.0
> httpd[2] is as little as 15 seconds[3] and for Apache 2.2 only 5
> seconds.[4] The advantage of a short timeout is the ability to deliver
> multiple components of a web page quickly while not consuming resources
> to run multiple server processes or threads for too long.[5]"
>
>
Which has absolutely nothing to do with DHCP and dynamic IP address
assignment (which is handled by an entirely different server,
independent of the web browser).
But of course you're too stoopid to understand there IS a difference -
much less what that difference is.
>
>
>> Note that I've left his egregious hayseed grammatical errors in.
>>
>
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