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Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent [message #181913 is a reply to message #181896]

Sat, 22 June 2013 16:20

bill
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On 2013-06-21 6:25 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 21/06/13 10:11, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <51c37641$0$6623$9b4e6d93(at)newsspool2(dot)arcor-online(dot)net>,
>> Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69(at)arcor(dot)de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 20.06.2013 22:46, schrieb Gordon Burditt:
>>>> > I'm a PHP near-newbie working fairly successfully on creating a
>>> secure >> PHP e-mail (mail()) function. It occurs to me that the only
>>> way a user >> knows (thinks) a form has been sent, is that I tell him
>>> so either in a >> line of code or with a Thank You page.
>>>> > Since you're a near-newbie, please save the world from having to
>>>> block email from your server, and DO NOT put any variables in email
>>>> headers, DO NOT put any variables from the user in email headers,
>>>> and DO NOT put any variables set in your form in email headers.
>>>> Put them in the body of the mail.

....

>>>
>>>> (For a mailing list to customers, you're stuck with a variable
>>>> in the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: headers. )
>>>
>>> In my limited experience Cc and Bcc headers *might* be blocked by the
>>> ISP.

Not mine; but I do receive reports on anything that looks suspicious.
For an online form, which was the subject of the OP here, a BCC: list
(or even cc:) shouldn't be needed.

If I'm sending out a mailing list though, I do use Bcc: so that
everyone's e-mail address isn't exposed to every recipient's view and
Address Book, just primed to be hacked. But an online form has no use
for such things and they should be filtered from all input.

>>
>> Well you shouldn't be sending a Bcc: header, now, should you? :-)
>
> well there is no there way other than sending EACH message INDIVIDULLY
> that you can hide other members of the mailing list from the intended
> recipient.
>
> The only difference betwen a list mailer and spam, is that the people
> recieving spam didnt ask to be on the list...

Not here: Every single person on the list has signed up and ASKED to
receive the e-mails. And those come from me, NOT an online form.
>
>>
>> And why should it block a cc: header anyway? It's just part of the data.
>>
> Anti-spam. If there are more than e.g. 10 people on a CC: or Bcc field
> many ISPs - or mail subsystems - will bounce it as spam.

Not on any of the four ISP/servers I've used anyway. I'd hope that only
applied to online forms; my limit is 150 e-mails per 24 hr period or 500
per month and they do an excellent job with identifying spam. Should I
send spam, they'll detect it immediately and give me 24 hours to stop.
>
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		FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Thu, 20 June 2013 17:40
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 20 June 2013 17:53
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: J.O. Aho on Thu, 20 June 2013 18:18
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Thu, 20 June 2013 18:24
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 20 June 2013 18:40
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: gordonb.vb4vo on Thu, 20 June 2013 19:44
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Thu, 20 June 2013 21:03
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Fri, 21 June 2013 18:06
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sat, 22 June 2013 15:42
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Sun, 23 June 2013 11:13
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Sun, 23 June 2013 11:22
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sun, 23 June 2013 17:07
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sun, 23 June 2013 17:00
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: J.O. Aho on Sun, 23 June 2013 18:22
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sun, 23 June 2013 18:53
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: gordonb.4qaft on Mon, 24 June 2013 19:43
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Peter H. Coffin on Mon, 24 June 2013 20:09
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Tue, 25 June 2013 13:19
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 25 June 2013 14:11
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Tue, 25 June 2013 15:43
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Tue, 25 June 2013 15:32
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: gordonb.htsnc on Thu, 27 June 2013 15:57
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Thu, 27 June 2013 19:13
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Arno Welzel on Fri, 28 June 2013 09:43
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: gordonb.k0cb7 on Thu, 20 June 2013 20:46
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 20 June 2013 21:03
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: gordonb.udxst on Sat, 22 June 2013 00:26
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 22 June 2013 00:36
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sat, 22 June 2013 16:04
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Christoph Michael Bec on Thu, 20 June 2013 21:39
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Tim Streater on Fri, 21 June 2013 09:11
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 21 June 2013 10:25
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Tim Streater on Fri, 21 June 2013 11:27
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 21 June 2013 16:59
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Tim Streater on Fri, 21 June 2013 17:25
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 21 June 2013 22:43
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Tim Streater on Sat, 22 June 2013 12:45
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sat, 22 June 2013 16:20
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: Peter H. Coffin on Thu, 20 June 2013 22:27
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 21 June 2013 06:57
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: bill on Sat, 22 June 2013 16:02
		Re: FORMS, validating mail was sent By: GravyCode on Fri, 21 June 2013 18:30

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