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Re: A general note on invalid.com and others like it [message #183036 is a reply to message #183035] Fri, 04 October 2013 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Beauregard T. Shagnas is currently offline  Beauregard T. Shagnas
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richard the sto0pid wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> richard @shut.the.fuck.up.stupid wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Twayne wrote:
>>>> > Just an idle comment on those who use invalid.com for e-mail
>>>> > addresses:
>>>> >
>>>> > invalid.com is a legit e-mail address; try it.
>>>>
>>>> Better is to use example.com as it is designed for the purpose. Even
>>>> better than that is example.invalid
>>>>
>>>> Any made-up user name to the left of the @ that uses a valid domain
>>>> name to the right will flood the server of the owner of that valid
>>>> domain, regardless if the user name is legitimate or not.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for pointing out this problem.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> Yes, bullis, really.
>>
>>> I wasn't aware that simply posting an addy cause email to be sent to
>>> that addy.
>>> Is this some new feature of usenet?
>>
>> In all your years, I suppose it is possible that you have never heard
>> of email address harvesting on Usenet by spammers. Okay, I get that.
>> You've learned something new tonight.
>>
>> BTW, bullis(at)shut(dot)the(dot)fuck(dot)up(dot)stupid will still cause the servers the
>> spammers use to attempt to *send* mail to shut.the.fuck.up.stupid. They
>> will *not* attempt to send to example.com or something.invalid (because
>> they are configured that way).
>
> Yes you have it wrong.
> Usenet addy's by themselves DO NOT send email.
> They are collected and abused by spammers.

Well, duh! Is that some sort of backpedalling statement? What part of
"harvesting" was too far over your brow?

> Which is why I have NEVER used my real addy.
> mail(at)newsguy(dot)com Is a valid addy.
> Which I did use, with permission.
> I was told that since it is not active, any mail sent to it is
> automagically trashed.

Sure, the mail can be trashed. The idea with using an .invalid TLD is to
prevent the *sending* of any mail *in the first place.* Why clog the pipe
if you don't have to?

> And then there are the more sophisticated spammers who will use programs
> to crack your login password so they can send mail as if it came from
> you.
> I know. I've been hit twice that way.

...none of which has anything to do with the topic being discussed.

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