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Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme [message #20837 is a reply to message #20829]

Fri, 29 October 2004 17:47

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JamesS wrote on Fri, 29 October 2004 09:31

The following three articles explain very well why using CSS to represent a grid layout (read: using tables [minimally]) is a waste of time:

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/03/sliding-faux-columns/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/05/css-grids/
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/06/to-be-tabled/

Basically, what you end up with is heavy markup that is structured like table markup but has to be styled to render like a table. And trust me, it is more trouble than it is worth to convert a grid layout page to all CSS.

My point being, don't just say "I can't use tables they are bad" because a majority of people that are coming around to standards based design is proselytizing that you do so. Look at the situation and determine the best, most efficient, way to do the design while remaining compliant (hopefully strict compliant).

I never said, "can't use tables; they are bad". Tables vs no-tables and semantically correct XHTML/CSS vs deprecated HTML are 2 totally different subjects.

Tables are the best solution for grid layouts, without question. However, they're frequently overused. It depends on the specific situation whether tables should be used or not.

The other point - whether to use XHTML/CSS - does not exclude using tables.

I just didn't get into it in depth in my previous post because it didn't seem necessary. My point was that (1)CSS is more supported these days, and (2)there are ways to code with less tables, resulting in quicker page load speeds. In short, I agree with you.

Dean

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		Possible to do an all CSS theme By: beamdriver on Mon, 15 December 2003 14:48
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Mon, 15 December 2003 15:43
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: gbjbaanb on Tue, 16 December 2003 23:08
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Tue, 16 December 2003 23:14
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: beamdriver on Wed, 17 December 2003 14:30
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: gbjbaanb on Wed, 17 December 2003 18:44
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: AzaToth on Wed, 17 December 2003 19:58
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: beamdriver on Wed, 17 December 2003 20:37
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Wed, 17 December 2003 21:57
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: gbjbaanb on Wed, 17 December 2003 22:54
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: gbjbaanb on Wed, 17 December 2003 22:57
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Wed, 17 December 2003 23:25
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: AzaToth on Wed, 17 December 2003 23:56
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Thu, 18 December 2003 00:04
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: beamdriver on Fri, 19 December 2003 14:41
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: tgaastra on Fri, 02 January 2004 03:06
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Fri, 02 January 2004 04:27
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: tgaastra on Fri, 02 January 2004 05:53
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Fri, 02 January 2004 15:53
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: tallship on Sat, 15 May 2004 15:37
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Wed, 17 December 2003 23:24
		Any news about the all CSS theme ? By: Spooky on Wed, 28 April 2004 06:50
		Re: Any news about the all CSS theme ? By: Ilia on Wed, 28 April 2004 13:26
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: showdax on Fri, 02 July 2004 04:31
		Any news on the tableless design front By: Spooky on Sat, 02 October 2004 07:05
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: JamesS on Tue, 19 October 2004 15:48
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Tue, 19 October 2004 15:57
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: JamesS on Tue, 19 October 2004 16:55
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: D9rr on Thu, 28 October 2004 20:28
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: JamesS on Fri, 29 October 2004 13:31
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Fri, 29 October 2004 13:39
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: D9rr on Fri, 29 October 2004 17:47
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ric Fischer on Sun, 31 October 2004 05:07
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Sun, 31 October 2004 18:06
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: D9rr on Mon, 01 November 2004 01:54
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: JamesS on Fri, 29 October 2004 13:49
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: Ilia on Fri, 29 October 2004 14:01
		Re: Possible to do an all CSS theme By: JamesS on Fri, 29 October 2004 14:11
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