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Re: Another Header Question [message #166662 is a reply to message #166661] Tue, 07 February 2012 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A. That would do it! Though I believe you would be better off not changing the file name at all just replacing the image while using the same name (I remove the image all together by commenting out header.gif in my header.tmpl )


B. Don't bother? Just go to admin panel > Global Settings Manager and edit (Forum Title: and Forum Description:)


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Re: Another Header Question [message #166664 is a reply to message #166663] Tue, 07 February 2012 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pips wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 04:52
A) I've done this and its not changing any of the Text at the Top Confused


Well that's no fun is it?

I imagine you either didn't "SET" it or you are looking at a cached copy that should work!


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Re: Another Header Question [message #166668 is a reply to message #166665] Tue, 07 February 2012 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pips wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 05:16

The values $Forum_Name and $Forum_Decr have not changed in the Globals.PHP file.

Do i need to debug or run consistancy checks, or is the Globals.php file locked up in some way?


No it shouldn't be locked, and once the title or description is changed and set it should display in your header!

The Globals.php should look something like this:
$FORUM_TITLE		= 'Forum Title';
$FORUM_DESCR		= 'Description'; 

I'm wondering why you refer to "$Forum_Name and $Forum_Decr" I see them as "$FORUM_TITLE and $FORUM_DESCR" in the Globals.PHP file using ver3.0.3.

Running consistency checks couldn't hurt but it still seems odd that your header isn't updating, mine does so instantly.




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Re: Another Header Question [message #166671 is a reply to message #166670] Tue, 07 February 2012 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well it looks to me like you need to figure this out:

/vhosts/domain-name.com/httpdocs/fudforum/adm/Globals.php -VS- /vhosts/nomad-forum.com/httpdocs/fudforum/Globals.php

I don't know how your host system works but that don't look right to me, yet I can't exactly place it right now.




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Re: Another Header Question [message #166673 is a reply to message #166672] Tue, 07 February 2012 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(No problem)
It at least looks like you got the image right!

Does everything else in your globals match with the second?



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pips wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 08:18
Mostly, although some of the variables are different.

One that catched my eye:

$FUD_OPT_2
$FUD_OPT_3


Its almost like there is a forum within a forum :hmmm:


Don't quote me on this but I believe those refer to the "Optional" fields in the Profile the admin can manage from the admin panel.


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Re: Another Header Question [message #166682 is a reply to message #166681] Wed, 08 February 2012 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First though it might help to understand how you got here, for the time being I assume that the forum/globals were already like this when you began and you just asked why/how.

I checked and my install has a global in the web dir as well as within the adm directory and both appear to be identical! (have you tried making yours identical particularly the /vhosts/nomad-forum.com/httpdocs/fudforum/Globals.php section?).

Why it has "domain-name.com" in one just does not seem correct, but I can't comprehend how it would have gotten there without someone adding it manually.



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Re: Another Header Question [message #166686 is a reply to message #166685] Wed, 08 February 2012 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All righty then! Now if you can just figure out why the paths were different (were they already that way when you became admin?)

FYI in the future you can manually edit (upload, rename, Del, cmod, dload,) your Globals etc. from within the admin panel (its one of the reasons I chose this software, it's completely self contained).

It should not be a "forum/ cat" thing, the software can handle thousands of individual forums and categories more likely it was an installation/upgrade/mod issue or a difference in your specific system..... But specifically what it is I've no idea, and no way to tell how long it's been like that.

On a side note, a quick review shows 8 admins (and several moderators), not to mention a whole slew of users with custom colors/tags; so there could be any number of possible causes stemming from any of them..... Be careful.

And make sure you keep a current backup.



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Don't underestimate yourself, upgrades are pretty simple really and the best way to learn is by doing.

Besides by walking through it you help others learn as well.


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Re: Another Header Question [message #166690 is a reply to message #166689] Thu, 09 February 2012 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I just love the Geo-IP option (it's a good thing).

pips wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 05:05
So, how do i go about fixing this? Ideallym if i knew what i was doing, i'd park up the forum message databases and wipe the forum and start from fresh, but i don't know what i am doing Laughing
The forum is buggered though. (at least from the internals, the posting seems to be hanging together)

As for the rest lets just start at the beginning and go through it one step at a time!

First, I looked over the forum and based on what I see and on what you say I wouldn't do like you are suggesting above and start fresh! I would go about it much differently!

I doubt you really want to delete all of your posts and start totally new (that's overkill), instead I would use FUDforum2go or preferably a sub-domain to recreate your installed forum and do the work without affecting the forum at all (my knowledge is limited so I have to do things the hard way).

You haven't said anything about having errors or any real problems, other than: Quote:
The forum is buggered though. (at least from the internals, the posting seems to be hanging together)
(Which I don't quite understand).

So since you seem mostly interested in making cosmetic improvements and "spruce up" there shouldn't be a need to dump all of your past posts or do more work than needs to be done.

The upgrade script needs to be uploaded to your domains root (unless installed differently) this should be the same "WWW Root: This is the URL of your forum." From your adm panel.

I'll be back on later tonight if you want some help.


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pips wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 08:03
I didn't mean delete the posts, i meant save them (put them to one side) and reinstall the forum structure and then reload the posts. (that probably sounds nonsense doesn't it Laughing

No it doesn't, its just easier said than done (at least with my limited experience); I've not always had good luck when importing/exporting/transferring data from one install to another particularly where an upgrade happens in between.

As for your path, not to worry ...... I assume you have full FTP privileges for the host? If not you can work around that for now.






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Pips, form what I can see you have a problem with symbolic links.

FUDforum uses one GLOBALS.php file:

  • {data}/include/GLOBALS.php


It also has 3 links to it

  • {data}/scripts/GLOBALS.php
  • {forum}/GLOBALS.php
  • {forum}/adm/GLOBALS.php


I am not sure of the reason why, as it seems a rather poor implementation choice, but it is this way (maybe it will be changed in future releases).

GLOBALS.php also contains information about the installation directory and the data directory (WWW_ROOT_DISK and DATA_DIR variables), which are probably pointing to the wrong places because of the symbolic links.

I believe that the previous admin did change the installation path somehow but forgot to update the symlinks.
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Good Point! Perhaps it might be wise to ensure that all three globals are correct before going further!

Symlinks have always been a bane for me; I've never understood how to cope with them effectively beyond basic editing as needed.



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pips wrote on Wed, 29 February 2012 20:45

HOLD THE PHONE!!!


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