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when incuding a page [message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 17:05

Mr Oldies
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<?php inlcude "page.html" ?>

Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?

The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.

If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
Such as CSS or javascript.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184112 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 17:16

J.O. Aho
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On 06/12/13 18:05, richard wrote:
> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>
> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?

Depends on how you have written things.

> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.

Then you didn't write things properly.

> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.

As you would for a normal html page.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184113 is a reply to message #184112]

Fri, 06 December 2013 17:29

Dennis
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On 06/12/13 18:05, RtS wrote:
> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>

And it would help if you spelled "include" correctly.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184114 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 18:09

Beauregard T. Shagnas
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richard the sto0pid wrote:

> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>

Maybe if you speeled it correctly.

> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?

The correct answer is: it depends.

> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.

Then you've once again coded with errors.

> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.

It depends.

Just think: if you were to pay someone from Bangladesh a couple hundred
dollars, your site would be up and working by Monday. And *look* nice as
well.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184115 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 19:33

The Natural Philosoph
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On 06/12/13 17:05, richard wrote:
> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
> ^^^^^^^

Computers prefer people who can spell correctly.
and use the correct syntax...

Your are not the PFY and you are pulling our legs

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184116 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 19:44

Christoph Michael Bec
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richard wrote:

> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>
> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
>
> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>
> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.

Well, actually the include statement does not include a _page_, but
rather the contents of a *file*. This basically works the same, as if
the file contents were inserted instead of <?php include 'whatever'?>.

If you have to include a "page" (i.e. an HTML document) stored in a
file, you might be better off to display it as an IFRAME.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184117 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 20:15

Richard Yates
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:05:46 -0500, richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com>
wrote:

> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>
> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
>
> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>
> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.

include inserts the contents of a file. That can be a whole html page
or a fragment of code.

Think of include as exactly the same as manually copy-and-pasting the
contents of the file.

So, for instance, if your page already has a <head> section before the
include, then you probably do not want to have a <head> section in the
included file. If you are including php code inside a section of php
code, then you do not need <?php....?> in the included file. But if it
is being inserted into the middle of html then you do need those.

Again, just think of it as: include is just copy-and-pasting the
contents of a file.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184118 is a reply to message #184111]

Fri, 06 December 2013 21:35

Scott Johnson
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On 12/6/2013 9:05 AM, richard wrote:
> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>
> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
>
> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>
> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.
>

allow me to add that even though the ending semicolon is not needed for
this particular line, YOU may want to put it there to minimize the error
you come back here with when you add another line and forgot to add the
semicolon.

Scotty

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184213 is a reply to message #184111]

Sun, 15 December 2013 17:42

Fyndhorn Elder
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richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> writes:

> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>
> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?

Look at the source code in your browser (right-click or CTRL-click on a mac mouse), select the view source menuitem. You'll see what is included on the output of your PHP script.

>
> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>

The correct syntax is include("string") or include('string literal')

> If not, then how does one properly include the stuff for that page?
> Such as CSS or javascript.
>

Again, watch the output in the source view of your browser.

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FE

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184215 is a reply to message #184213]

Sun, 15 December 2013 18:34

Christoph Michael Bec
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Fyndhorn Elder wrote:

> richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> writes:
>
>> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>>
>> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
>
> Look at the source code in your browser (right-click or CTRL-click on a mac mouse), select the view source menuitem. You'll see what is included on the output of your PHP script.
>
>>
>> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>>
>
> The correct syntax is include("string") or include('string literal')

include is not a function, but a statement, so the parentheses are not
required.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184217 is a reply to message #184215]

Sun, 15 December 2013 19:34

Moon Elf
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On 2013-12-15, Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69(at)arcor(dot)de> wrote:
> Fyndhorn Elder wrote:
>
>> richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> writes:
>>
>>> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>>>
>>> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
>>
>> Look at the source code in your browser (right-click or CTRL-click on a mac
mouse), select the view source menuitem. You'll see what is included on the
output of your PHP script.
>>
>>>
>>> The validator throws a hissy fit when doing so.
>>>
>>
>> The correct syntax is include("string") or include('string literal')
>
> include is not a function, but a statement, so the parentheses are not
> required.
>

Indeed, you can write include "filename" or include 'filename' with a ; at the
end but your parser does not accept closures as in JS e.g. new.

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184226 is a reply to message #184217]

Sun, 15 December 2013 21:10

Ben Bacarisse
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Moon Elf <moonelf(at)moonelfsystem(dot)net> writes:

> On 2013-12-15, Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69(at)arcor(dot)de> wrote:
>> Fyndhorn Elder wrote:
>>
>>> richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> writes:
>>>
>>>> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>

(It's been pointed out before, but there is a typo there: "incl" not
"inlc".)

>>>> Should the include page be a complete page with headers or not?
<snpi>
>>> The correct syntax is include("string") or include('string literal')
>>
>> include is not a function, but a statement, so the parentheses are not
>> required.
>
> Indeed, you can write include "filename" or include 'filename' with a
> ; at the end but your parser does not accept closures as in JS
> e.g. new.

What's the connection with closures?

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Re: when incuding a page [message #184297 is a reply to message #184215]

Fri, 20 December 2013 17:57

Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Christoph Michael Becker wrote:

> Fyndhorn Elder wrote:
>> richard <noreply(at)example(dot)com> writes:
>>> <?php inlcude "page.html" ?>
>> […]
>> The correct syntax is include("string") or include('string literal')
>
> include is not a function, but a statement, so the parentheses are not
> required.

The fascinating thing about “include” is that it works like a function
although it is a statement. If the include is successful, it returns 1 by
default, otherwise FALSE. And if the include is successful, and the
included PHP script contains a “return” statement, then the value of the
“return” statement's parameter (for lack of a better word) is the return
value of „include“ if execution reaches that statement.

However, in general it is considered good style to omit the parentheses.
It is considered even better style to avoid include* and require* when
possible, in favor of autoloading.

See also:

<http://php.net/include>
<http://pear.php.net/manual/en/standards.including.php>
<http://pear.php.net/manual/en/pear2cs.rules.php>
<http://php.net/autoload>

Unfortunately, so far the difference between function-like statements and
functions has never been made clear using different, but consistent code
style in the PHP manual.

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